Marvel's Avengers Dev Responds To Backlash After Slowing Progression, Upsets Players Even More

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    YongYeaYongYeaUukausi sitten
    • @Maxton Valentin whoa! It took about 10 minutes but it actually worked!

      Elliott JaxxonElliott JaxxonUukausi sitten
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      Maxton ValentinMaxton ValentinUukausi sitten
    • it's that dark souls mentality, that masochistic streak born from the it & the culture... and applying it to games that doesnt need them

      BakedMoMoBakedMoMoUukausi sitten
    • Just save whole bunch of money from switching to geico.

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    • So qustion how long before they add time savers to lol because player choice. Sighh

      9lives lie-cat-lie9lives lie-cat-lieUukausi sitten
  • It's obvious what problem this is really trying to address. The problem of not selling enough experience boosts microtransactions

    Benjamin of HoustonBenjamin of HoustonPäivä sitten
  • It's on psnow now so I might have a go as I don't have to install it

    Geoff WatkinsonGeoff Watkinson4 päivää sitten
  • Is the six players left that are complaining enough to constitute a “backlash”?

    Dr NoDr No16 päivää sitten
  • Deus Ex died for this

    TheNameBrandTheNameBrand17 päivää sitten
  • "It's your fault for still playin this bare minimum game!"

    Cloudy NineCloudy Nine22 päivää sitten
  • This is why play testing is important. They should have had all of this ‘ding threshold’ thing ironed out BEFORE the game hits the market, especially if you want to make the grind worse. This isn’t people figuring out a way of manipulating current mechanics to be overpowered, that pretty much impossible to predict every possible ability combination and prevent OP combinations so nerfing that post release should be expected. Doing this just annoys your player base and makes you look sloppy/shady as a developer.

    LunaDeaminacLunaDeaminac23 päivää sitten
  • And they should increase. I dont care. My all characters are lvl50. Just because you think the game is crap and you dont want to play it, and now maybe you want doesnt mean they should see you the same as me, who played the game from day one till now and still love it. This wont affect ppl who played the game all time along. And i hope that they increase the progression even more so that you need atleast 10-15hrs to level character to max level

    MC 117MC 11723 päivää sitten
  • Anyone stupid enough to buy games from this developer anymore, you deserve to be disappointed. Vote with your dollar, stop being dumb. Plenty of good games out there worth your money.

    YouhavetoguessitYouhavetoguessit24 päivää sitten
  • I ended the story around level 12 with most all of the characters. Playing each superhero only gets fun at level 40-50. Cause at that point you can do a wide array of moves. You can use multiple guns for widow, you can use multiple firing methods for iron man, you can smash stuff and heal people with khamala and you can do all the hulks moves and do all the throws and stuff with thor. Honestly they should speed the leveling process up so that it incentivises people to level multiple characters. If it's taking to long for them to develop new content, then they should develop an ARG or something to keep people mulling over stuff, though I guess that would mean they would have to make a fun game :/. The lack of transparency is also an issue. The go silent for weeks and then nothing but updates. No discussion or very little discussion about the games issues.

    ToosooToosoo25 päivää sitten
  • you are repeating yourself a lot, not only between upload, even in a single content you really repeating too much

    Ricky SutantoRicky Sutanto25 päivää sitten
  • In all fairness I would question the intelligence of people playing this game

    Brandon KhanBrandon Khan25 päivää sitten
  • "Playing the full avengers roster". More like half the roster, barely any content and stupid exclusive content. I'll continue with Marvel ultimate alliance 1 and 2. Way more fun, better content and less bullshit.

    Connor BroomConnor Broom26 päivää sitten
  • There's nothing at endgame to really do, so they thought that meant it should take longer to do apparently. The grind was honestly the gear levels I think I had 3 characters leveled to max but none were even close to max gear.

    nam3l3ss z3r0nam3l3ss z3r026 päivää sitten
  • Who asked for this change? No one.

    JediPeaceWalkerJediPeaceWalker26 päivää sitten
  • The only thing confusing players are these incompetent devs and publishers that never listen. Seriously, they have millions of people to give them feedback on their game and they just close their ears and go LALALALALA. It's frustrating.

    Four Dozen EggsFour Dozen Eggs26 päivää sitten
  • Now for a new episode of "How to make Marvel IPs Unprofitable 101"

    SparkTFSSparkTFS26 päivää sitten
  • Soon in the shop: XP Booster (timesaver) only $4.99... most likely

    eye776eye77627 päivää sitten
  • wait wait wait... 3-5hr to lvl 1-50 in an mmo is to slow? na dawg i'm out of this argument unless someone can explane how that is actually slow. Thats 'I lvl in my spare time at work' time.

    Jaymz RaulfinJaymz Raulfin27 päivää sitten
  • "grinding is content" mentality.

    xRaalxxRaalx27 päivää sitten
  • what shocks me is that Square enix is behind this game, they are usually better at these things, smarter, ffxiv is fantastic.

    Natsuki ReiNatsuki Rei27 päivää sitten
  • "You would get more skill points than you had time to review, apply, and get used to, before embarking on your next mission and gaining your next few levels. Hopefully, you can see the issue here." No, that is not an issue, that's just your opinion. In fact, it's not even an opinion, it's just an excuse you came up with.

    BlahanderBlahander28 päivää sitten
  • Should be titled "how to alienate what players they have left!!"

    Captain AmericaCaptain America28 päivää sitten
  • Imagine being paid what they're being paid, but making these absolutely retarded decisions. I wish I could be paid dozens of thousands of dollars for being stupid.

    AlphazoneAlphazone28 päivää sitten
  • Next update: we’ve add a xp boost that cost money.

    TREXY MANTREXY MAN28 päivää sitten
  • In the news today: Rich preppy executives can't comprehend the concept of how to earn things 🥸

    Grim SheppardGrim Sheppard28 päivää sitten
  • Pull the plug get rockstars to make a new game preferably x men.

    Steven RitchieSteven Ritchie29 päivää sitten
  • This game is truly a pile of 💩

    Shawn JacksonShawn Jackson29 päivää sitten
  • dont they have microtransactions in the game that boost the progression? my guess would be that they just want to nudge people to spend money

    Ivan NikitinIvan Nikitin29 päivää sitten
  • This game is so trash... I'm sorry but missions that are the same everytime, boring gameplay, grinding a shit ton and fucking microtransactions. I was so stoked about this game. I wanted to play it so bad because I loved the Spiderman games. They were phenomenal. And then they fucked up the Avengers game so bad... like... why?!

    KronseKronse29 päivää sitten
  • Lol honestly this was one of the best things and I wish they would have increased the rate of getting power level lol. Getting to endgame was too long and it was just boring

    shadowman2101shadowman210129 päivää sitten
    • Another side note, is skills made a big impact sure their take on slowing things down would be great but the skills are shit. It’s doesnt change much and at this point the character needs those skills to feel whole since without it they feel horrible and gear does nothing

      shadowman2101shadowman210129 päivää sitten
  • EA don't seem to realize people would rather spend 20 bucks on Valheim for 100+hrs worth of content with free reign over what they do, console commands if it's necessary. Hope the trend continues to shift

    BladeChildBladeChild29 päivää sitten
  • Wait I didn't know people still played this game? Last time I looked into it, had like 5 people playing lol

    Doodie FarmzDoodie FarmzUukausi sitten
  • But Anthem 2.0 got cancelled 😞

    Liomar NavarroLiomar NavarroUukausi sitten
  • No fun allowed

    SilentVinylSilentVinylUukausi sitten
  • This is Crystal Dynamics version of Bungie’s “We’re Listening” meme. Did Luke Smith become a consultant for CD after getting moved to Bungie’s media and story team?

    Matthew OrnellesMatthew OrnellesUukausi sitten
  • The punch line here is “new players”

    StormStormUukausi sitten
  • "How to kill a game, even more, speedrun any% flawless."

    Armydude300Armydude300Uukausi sitten
  • Bungie been real inspirational

    Crazy RaccoonCrazy RaccoonUukausi sitten
  • I cannot believe some idiot really believed that getting too many skill points was overwhelming.

    i7iu7ei7iu7eUukausi sitten
  • wow thanks,another reason to not play it.

    LuciFER THE GODLuciFER THE GODUukausi sitten
  • Even if it was valid to claim "its too confusing to use multiple skillpoints at once" all that means is their skilltree itself is poorly made lol

    Mornings Von COZYMornings Von COZYUukausi sitten
  • Well, you want to skip the grind, I'm sure there's a lootbox for that.😋

    FCOL DFCOL DUukausi sitten
  • If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. then it’s more “sense of pride and accomplishment” bs

    Sonic The HedgewhoreSonic The HedgewhoreUukausi sitten
  • This game bout to be the next anthem. I fully expect it to be abandoned this year.

    joshjoshUukausi sitten
  • I don’t understand this. I played it for some time and enjoyed it for the good that it had, but slowly it kept taking enjoyment away from me. So I became a cliche like everyone else and sold it but after this, it’s like, I sadly made the right move.

    Chad CuervoChad CuervoUukausi sitten
  • I kinda like how everyone and I mean everyone is telling the developers what the problem is with the game. CONTENT. CONTENT. But to the developers believe XP

    Scout 1032Scout 1032Uukausi sitten
  • If they want to save this game make the elite hive missions multiplayer so playing with friends for exotic gear is the endgame gameplay is fun. Why have multiplayer if endgame is designed to be solo missions? Like wtf?

    Brian ReedyBrian ReedyUukausi sitten
  • When will this industry learn that, with few exceptions, throttling and slowing player progression in these types of games is never a good thing, the players hate it and it makes your game hemorrhage engagement and thus losing paying customers and player generated experiences It happened with destiny and others and it was immediately backpedaled when the players found out because it wasn’t good for business

    Starminer7Z7Starminer7Z7Uukausi sitten
  • Never bought this shitty game thank god . Waiting on bio mutant ya .

    B MullB MullUukausi sitten
  • Either the developers are not listening to the community or they are not aware this is the opposite instead of dealing with the Grind. Thank God I didn't waste my money on a game like this.

    Junior MphahleleJunior MphahleleUukausi sitten
  • Do these assholes not realise how much we've all grinded since the days of the snes ,and now they want us to grind more , is that a joke

    Ethen HuntEthen HuntUukausi sitten
  • Let me go level all my heroes up that's unlocked now although I don't play anymore to help me farm in the future wen I start playing again because I still have hope for this game 😔😔💔

    Jordan OwensJordan OwensUukausi sitten
  • lol new players

    Courtohnhake:tonCourtohnhake:tonUukausi sitten
  • "So what's the problem?" Quote sounds like "Do you guys not have phones?"

    Ryan LorenzoRyan LorenzoUukausi sitten
  • Only complete morons would play this game or buy this game or care about these stupid changes

    MrZforce HobbiesMrZforce HobbiesUukausi sitten
  • This is how Anthem died. Sad😓

    Behzad Mir MozaffariBehzad Mir MozaffariUukausi sitten
  • wow... how many coffin nails are they going to hammer into this cash grab before they finally burry it?... it could of been so good but they got greedy... while being stupid... no good could ever come from that...

    Punisher SnakePunisher SnakeUukausi sitten
  • So wait.... You can't see downvotes on reddit anymore?

    Evan WallerEvan WallerUukausi sitten
  • - ey man, our game is too grindy, you know what we needed right now? - double grind! - you are promoted!

    Fajar ArdliFajar ArdliUukausi sitten
  • This game would've been dead(er) on arrival if not for its title and characters.

    PC-98PC-98Uukausi sitten
  • teodio

    Sabanas AlgodonSabanas AlgodonUukausi sitten
  • Double down and game die twice as fast ... not suprise, pride not gonna do shit if they dont even understant their own game

    WhiteKWhiteKUukausi sitten
  • This game man smh wow they dropped the ball on this

    That VisionThat VisionUukausi sitten
  • How in the world did these people think this was a good idea? The game is already dead and now they are going to bury it

    B IB IUukausi sitten
  • I feel like most games that come out now are like gimmicky copouts and story and content are merely afterthoughts

    Balisongs for BreakfastBalisongs for BreakfastUukausi sitten
  • "confusing and overwhelming to new players"...what new players?

    ChickenbowserChickenbowserUukausi sitten
  • Topic starts at 5:30

    MysteryMrRMysteryMrRUukausi sitten
  • They are no doubt gunna add booster dlc for xp in about a month

    HuntersHotTakesHuntersHotTakesUukausi sitten
  • If you don't know how to kill abomination in one hit then you aren't playing the game right anyways

    I smell troubleI smell troubleUukausi sitten
  • This kind of reminds me of what The Secret World did with it's re-release. Said that the ability wheel was too intimidating for new players(kind of is to be fair.) So they did away with it and way dumbed down skills, killing all ability/weapon synergies. Killed what I thought was a fun aspect, there was so much to play around with. Now it's pretty limited and basic.

    MuraXLRMuraXLRUukausi sitten
  • players ?!

    Radfoxy BlueRadfoxy BlueUukausi sitten
  • At least you reached endgame content, I couldn't play on steam, it's simply unbearable with all bugs and crashes.

    Thiago Araujo MedeirosThiago Araujo MedeirosUukausi sitten
  • ...What the hell?

    Junior MphahleleJunior MphahleleUukausi sitten
  • I for one am very thankful for this slowdown. Getting too many skills all at once hurts my head! I am so glad that I get to take it slow, some of you all may know how to play games good, but the dumber players like me really need these developers treating us like what we are. Dumbasses

    Trey AndersonTrey AndersonUukausi sitten
  • So combat is actually interesting when all the moves are unlocked? In other words they purposely broke the game so you'd pay to make it less terrible.

    AwkwardRenegadeAwkwardRenegadeUukausi sitten
  • Honestly thought it was a mobile game when people were talking about it....

    JC DentonJC DentonUukausi sitten
  • The only way this would make sense was if this included a tech tree rework, bringing the good stuff earlier on, so you can have more fun. But I guess they did the easiest part.

    Dickon BrantDickon BrantUukausi sitten
  • Surprise mechanics when?

    Adrian A. JohannessenAdrian A. JohannessenUukausi sitten
  • They want to kill this game faster

    Isslam BouabdallahIsslam BouabdallahUukausi sitten
  • Meanwhile, you can easily go from rank 0 to 30 (max rank) in Warframe in just 20-30 minutes, especially with a booster, which is a potential login bonus.

    TheStabbyBritTheStabbyBritUukausi sitten
  • Who asked for this? Nobody asked for this XD

    BelakituBelakituUukausi sitten
  • The real issue here is that of the few poor souls still playing Avengers, not enough of them are paying money for progression on their battle passes. Gotta make the game more grindy so that the people left feel more pressure to spend.

    Christian BradleyChristian BradleyUukausi sitten
  • This is prepping for the Free-2-Play model soon.

    G DG DUukausi sitten
  • Here's my only thing -- yes this is a AAA game in a sense and yes it's a live service, but my guess is that Square Enix didn't have a lot to say about the direction, and Crystal Dynamics ended up here. I think we've passed the point of knocking Crystal Dynamics and their semi-struggling publisher and maybe give the devs something to shoot for without killing their spirits. They did a heck of a job rebooting Tomb Raider, and although their writing struggled and innovation slowed down, they are capable of much more, and we should maybe inspire more guidance for them to improve on their next venture lest they be swallowed up :(

    CBlade0CBlade0Uukausi sitten
  • I'm surprised people actually bought and played this game.

    Silent SpectreSilent SpectreUukausi sitten
  • They'll probably sell EXP boosters for real money to fix the issue of slow progression caused by their fix for the issue of fast progression. And idiots will buy into it. Somebody kill me please.

    Aaron BenedettiAaron BenedettiUukausi sitten
  • You'd think after the unbelievable nightmare of anthem an how that game completely failed, that companies would learn from this! Anthem did the exact opposite of what the fans wanted, and what happened...... It got shelved! The idea didn't work, major let down, and the gaming community gave bioware and ea more then enough feedback about what was wrong with it.. They didn't listen, it died... Yet here we are again, an the same mistakes are being made, doing the opposite of what is needed and fixing issues that don't even exist 🤣.. So the second this update goes live it's basically the end of avengers, it won't last must after as players will just give up just like they did with anthem! In a funny way it almost feels like these triple A titles are going out of there way to actually fail on purpose??

    XWolf BladeXXWolf BladeXUukausi sitten
  • It doesn’t even make sense. It’s not like they have microtransactions to level you up. They’re literally just stupid.

    NickNickUukausi sitten
  • Basically they need more time to put out content. lol

    Kurs3Kurs3Uukausi sitten
  • Ugh, *grind*....the anti-game, anti-fun, anti-worth-playing word.

    AkairennAkairennUukausi sitten
  • This entire dev cycle has been "foot in mouth" every step of the way.

    Cancer ConnoisseurCancer ConnoisseurUukausi sitten
  • I also want to point out that, as someone who has a lvl 50, the reason we the players view skills much later when theres a bunch of them is cos the skills are kinda un interesting and repetitive across the board for most heroes we already start with all the powers, after that its all just power buffs

    AmonRaAmonRaUukausi sitten
  • Its very stupid unless they buff skills dramatically like more than 200% so that skill points actually become meaningful the way they initially wanted , but exp grind alone is faktarded

    AmonRaAmonRaUukausi sitten
  • Xp booster incoming.

    jack danielsjack danielsUukausi sitten
  • I can't even fathom how this decision was made

    Kevin CarignanKevin CarignanUukausi sitten
  • It really makes no sense when you break down their post. They say they want people to be able to explore their skills, yet most gameplay changing skills will be unlocked early on. The second half of the skill points are just stat boosts and will not affect gameplay. They are targeting this second half so it is really stupid. You really think I need time to get used to a 15% stun increase?!?!

    Brain freezeBrain freezeUukausi sitten
  • Everyone of these always online RPG games is absolute garbage, even Destiny. It's just mash buttons on very tanky enemy till you win. It's just a constant grind of the same lame content that you previously played a million times, all in the quest for better gear and more XP. See unlike real RPG's like Zelda and stuff that had actually interesting quests and good content to discover, these games are the most cookie cutter, generic garbage, where you fight the same generic random AI enemy and "boss" (which is just a generic AI with a larger body or color change). The quests are almost always boring, the characters are either boring or given little time to be fleshed out so the story ends up being boring and the gear is so hard to find unless you spend days trying to get particular items. The gear you get is entirely always luck based, meaning you don't have to have any skill to win or even finish the quests in a particular way to be rewarded. They almost always make the gear easier to get if you pay money, meaning again, the game isn't rewarding. Or they simply make you grind forever, which again is not rewarding in the slightest, it's just a time sink. On top of that, if you want the best gear, you have to level all the way to get to the best gear, meaning you have to sink even more time as a new player to be anywhere near competitive in any PvP mode they have. I dunno why people find this type of game fun.

    NANONANOUukausi sitten
  • How do they even have the little amount of players they have now?

    Allustar PlaysAllustar PlaysUukausi sitten
  • and that my friends is how you loose a player base

    BlaxomooseBlaxomooseUukausi sitten